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Renegade rank to aggressive with FIA faction

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Multiplayer

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Issue Key

AREXP-300

State

User feedback

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Public

Group

Arma Reforger

Project

Experimental Feedback

Creator

dkviking

Created

May 22, 2026

Views

121

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Experimental Version

1.7.0.41

Mission

 

Is it modded?

Description

Did a game playing FIA tonight. On my first spawn in, I end up finding a truck with loads of AT mines. I find a good spot for them based on the US/USSR supply routes and expected progress routes are.

I let the whole team know where I will place the mines and go to place them.

After they are placed I again let the whole team know the minefield is placed and clearly marked it on the map.

Then a friendly FIA not paying attention hit a mine and I get a single friendly kill.

Now that gives friendly fire, which can happen but normally not to bad with a single incident when playing US or USSR, however due to the FIA rank system, that single incident caused me to immediately become Renegade and that as FIA is basically the same as a full server ban until next match starts (which can be several hours/rest of the day). This is due to not being able to regain xp to loose the Renegade rank, since nothing now works, I tested the following:

No xp for supplies, no xp for killing enemy, no xp for destroy enemy vehicles, no xp for change radio relay (cant interact), no xp for staying close to team mate (not able to join a squad), not able to speak on radio, not able to use the FIA weapons crates (since lowest rank needed for all items) and all FIA ai's on the map will shoot at you.

Surely this can't be the intention of the FIA rank system and the Renegade system, that a single incident, in this case caused by a friendly not paying attention (he was very sorry afterwards when he learned the consequence) will cause you not to be able to attend the game for the rest of the night in my case, after only about 20 minutes playtime.

Activity

    3 months ago

  • dkviking
    created issue3 months ago
  • 3 months ago

  • medoedcommented
    3 months ago

    Related to #AREXP-280 and #AREXP-285


    Experience is awarded, but it's not reflected in the experience bar.


    It's clearly displayed for unloading supplies.

  • dkvikingcommented
    3 months ago

    Yes, when you have normal rank, experience is clearly displayed for unloading supplies, however, the problem was that a single, fully unintended incident gives you Renegade rank and when having Renegade rank, supplies cant be delivered, because you are no longer part of the faction.
    Just tested this to confirm it, eventhough it was quite difficult to do, since all the ai FIA trops now shoots at you :-)

  • l909
    changed state to
    FEEDBACK
    3 months ago
  • 3 months ago

  • medoedcommented
    3 months ago

    and when having Renegade rank, supplies cant be delivered

    It's weird. I was able to get experience for delivering supplies. And in one case, I only needed to unload 100 of them to become a regular FIA.


    Here in this ticket - #AREXP-268 , you can see in the screenshots how I get experience for delivering supplies.

  • dkvikingcommented
    3 months ago

    That is weird.
    Was you able to actually see the different FIA bases? For me everything was yellow markers (unknown) and when another player tried to add me to he's squad it said I belong to another Faction (most likely also why I couldn't even get the option to unload the supplies in the pause between the FIA ai Boots where shooting at me)

  • medoedcommented
    3 months ago

    Yes, this subfaction has no radio contact and everything is displayed in yellow, but you can still interact with FIA bases and unload supplies.

    And this, of course, is hard work and a challenge.


    I hope this situation will be corrected in the next update so that one kill doesn't lead to this result.

  • dkvikingcommented
    3 months ago

    I hope this situation will be corrected in the next update so that one kill doesn't lead to this result.

    Yes, and that is actually my overall point, the penalty currently is way to severe, especially considering the FIA faction is supposed to lay ambushes, traps, mines, etc.
    A good solution, if possible, in my mind would be to ensure a single kill is not enough to go straight to Renegade and that friendly fire on mines for the FIA only counts as friendly fire if within a certain radius of a FIA base.

  • 2 months ago

  • killswitch247commented
    2 months ago

    something similar happened to me on the live branch now. i accidentally bumped my truck into a fia bot and suddenly went renegade.

    • shooting american/soviets while wearing fia clothing gives negative rank because apparently it's wearing clothing of a different faction. the game only tells you this after you killed someone and lost rank.

    • delivering supplies to bases is extremely hard because at the beginning of the match all fia bases and all supply points have bots on them that shoot you and you cant shoot back

    • the further the game progresses, the fewer fia bases there are, to the point that fia has no bases left

    • delivering supplies to caches apparently doesn't give rank


    american or soviet renegades can usually find a base far from the front that hasn't ai and just deliver supplies there. being unable to do that and being unable to just kill people from enemy factions makes it incredibly hard.


    i found the only way to get back rank is sneaking into bases or supply depots naked and killing players that are distracted. this only works until people get guard bots at bases, which spot you from hundreds of meters distance.

    driving around fia players apparently also gives a little bit of rank back.

  • 2 months ago

  • medoedcommented
    2 months ago

    naked and killing players

    This deserves a separate achievement on Steam

  • about 21 hours ago

  • l909
    changed state to
    USER FEEDBACK
    about 21 hours ago

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Issue Key

AREXP-300

State

User feedback

Access

Public

Group

Arma Reforger

Project

Experimental Feedback

Creator

dkviking

Created

May 22, 2026

Views

121

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